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I take advantage of reading it every day. I will be back.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610098701295003985.post-4534140294552665522007-10-05T15:26:00.000-07:002007-10-05T15:26:00.000-07:00Most IB veterans would have known little or nothin...Most IB veterans would have known little or nothing about Trotskyists other than what they were told by their political commissars. <BR/>But the GPU machie in Spain had a much wider brief than watching or disposing of genuine Trotskyists - though "Trotskyist" was a handy label to put on people -just as it was (along with "Titoite" and "Zionist") during the 1950s trials in Eastern Europe. And those who had spent time in Spain appear to have been regarded as suspect (even when like Andre Simone they had spent their time loyally pursuing Trots).<BR/>If some people were considered expendable it is doubtful whether this would depend on ascertaining if they were really Trots - more likely that "justification" would be thought up afterwards. <BR/>One interesting but sad case concerned Andre Marty. At one time his reputation was considered sacrosanct. There was a row over whether a piece by Hemingway should appear in an anthology published in the States for the IB veterans, because he had allegedly slandered Marty. But then the French CP which had protested decided - or was instructed - to stage its own "trial" of Marty, transformed from hero to villain in one fell swoop.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03706356192920588519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610098701295003985.post-64695252585875382782007-09-28T12:58:00.000-07:002007-09-28T12:58:00.000-07:00Tom , there were very very few Trotskyites in the ...Tom , there were very very few Trotskyites in the British and Irish battalions of the IB. The majority of IB volunteers were CP members or YCL, a fairly good percentage of Labour Party and a good few who were in no party. Trots did go to Spain under the auspices of the POUM and recruited in Britain by the Independent Labour Party (ILP) but my resaerch suggests that the number who went must have been less than 10 and probably fewer than 7.They would not have had anuthing at all to do with the IBA in the period after the Spanish Civil War. Most IB veterans I knew loathed the Trots due to their most disruptive antics which undermined the military discipline and unity of the Republics army.Gabrielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11842473772696324319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610098701295003985.post-23230723040723313372007-09-27T16:12:00.000-07:002007-09-27T16:12:00.000-07:00Were most of the International Brigade people 'ort...Were most of the International Brigade people 'orthodox' communists? I suspect that Philby would have been quite happy to throw any Trotskyites to the lions.<BR/><BR/>This stuff might have passed across his desk because he was the head of the Iberian division of MI6 during the war. He would have been the go-to guy on Spain.<BR/><BR/> "The records of liaison with the Secret Intelligence Service show that in the post-war years most of the correspondence passed through Kim Philby's hands."<BR/><BR/>Without wanting to state the obvious, The Secret Intelligence Service is of course MI6.Tom Griffinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10011781723675785154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610098701295003985.post-18424191960827287392007-09-26T16:44:00.000-07:002007-09-26T16:44:00.000-07:00I think that if the Mi5 website specifically says ...I think that if the Mi5 website specifically says that many of the reports of the spying on the IBA ended up with Philby, then we can assume that is indeed the case. As earlier posters have pointed out Cde. Philby was an Mi6 man (external affairs so to speak). Does this not suggest that some of the data gleaned from the IBA 'plants' concerned matters external to the UK. In fact I would contend that would be the only credible reason for surveilling the IBA in any case, since it was in reality an old comrades association, but which the likes of Bob Doyle reveals in his autobiography continued to take a keen and active interest in extending solidarity to the Spanish comrades in their resistance against fascism after Franco's victory. This may be why Philby's interest was critical, since it is certainly likely that information about persons and resistance in Spain would, via the Franco sympathisers in the Security services have found its way to the Francoite secret police. It does seem at the very least fortuitous,and probably in reality most deliberate, that information which may have been very damaging to cdes in Spain, was being handled by someone whose political sympathies would undoubtedly be with the beleagured Spanish resistance to Fascism.That was the why this bit of information so casually mentioned on the Mi5 website so intrigued me in the first place, I was not confused as to Philby's areas of responsibility, on the contrary it is because of his very senior Mi6 role, that his interest in the data gleaned from intelligence gathered from within the IBA is so interesting.Gabrielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11842473772696324319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610098701295003985.post-75464226981003723402007-09-26T13:00:00.000-07:002007-09-26T13:00:00.000-07:00Hi to everybody,the only I Know about this issue i...Hi to everybody,<BR/>the only I Know about this issue is that when the Republicans fell, most of the "papers" went to England in other to avoid Franco to got them and found whereabouts of the "rojos". What happened with these papers and what use they made of them, I don't know. It's good to think that they did something for our cause, even although they left us to our fate.<BR/><BR/>By the way, I've already link your bloc to mine.Txel·lihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06434292722635641271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610098701295003985.post-87902143657446045712007-09-26T12:17:00.000-07:002007-09-26T12:17:00.000-07:00Concerning ex-International Brigaders, I've heard ...Concerning ex-International Brigaders, I've heard how they faced discrimination after in the forces, for instance. One who did not evidently was Alfred Sherman - he was put in Field Security Police, which was intelligence people were someimes for interrogating prisoners. Sherman's later career included a stint with the Observer -same paper which found Philby a job when MI6 asked them too. David Astor had intelligence connections. Sherman had been a political commisar in the Brigades, so maybe he just transferred employers.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03706356192920588519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610098701295003985.post-30885618326022698112007-09-26T11:57:00.000-07:002007-09-26T11:57:00.000-07:00Forgot to add the good news, have found my AOL con...Forgot to add the good news, have found my AOL connection working again, and with it, found my way to my blog and the links working again -including Unrepentant Communist -which I used to get through here. Oh the mysterious ways of the Internet - fingers crossed.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03706356192920588519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610098701295003985.post-90075796733713730892007-09-26T11:52:00.000-07:002007-09-26T11:52:00.000-07:00I thought Philby worked for MI6 rather than 5, so ...I thought Philby worked for MI6 rather than 5, so would mainly have been concerned with overseas subjects. He did have knowledge of Spain, but that was gained on the Nationalist side, so he would not have had direct knowlege of who ws who among the International Brigaders - except maybe those who were fellow spooks, and I doubt it then. <BR/>Philby was in charge of MI6 anti-comunist section and I read he was responsible for Ukrainians parachuted into the USSR so they may not have lasted long. But a more strange story concerns historian Edward Thompson's brother Frank who was engaged in wartime work with partisans in Bulgaria and Macedonia. He was lifted by right-wing Bulgarian secret police right at the end of the war, and perished. But the Bulgarian officer in charge was already linked with MI6. And with Philby's department. Some bit of skulduggery at work there.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03706356192920588519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610098701295003985.post-78673530638570867552007-09-25T16:27:00.000-07:002007-09-25T16:27:00.000-07:00Thanks Chris, glad your back. Malcolm. thanks for ...Thanks Chris, glad your back. <BR/><BR/>Malcolm. thanks for your comments. you must make allowances for the fact that many of my posts may contain information you already know..Bear with us I am writing for folk for whom this is new info. Its difficult, I think you'll agree, to know what is fresh to some and what is not, since everyone is different.Gabrielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11842473772696324319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610098701295003985.post-84787927187404132552007-09-25T16:14:00.000-07:002007-09-25T16:14:00.000-07:00Where's the surprise in all this?1. To my knowledg...Where's the surprise in all this?<BR/><BR/>1. To my knowledge, Philby gets mentioned as early as the 1982 edition of Antony Beever's <I>The Spanish Civil War</I> (page 255). He was already working (though he may not have been entirely aware for exactly whom) for OGPU. His controller was, probably, Theodore Maly. At that stage, Philby's role was to build a right-wing identity. Philby's involvement with MI6 (not MI5) comes after 1940.<BR/><BR/>2. I can testify that the Special Branch/MI5 security files during the 1950s and 1960s were comprehensive and efficient. In the early 60s, whenever I was photographed on a Saturday CND demo, my father could guess that by the following Monday or Tuesday: as a minor civil servant working for the Defence Ministry, he would be security checked.<BR/><BR/>It has also been established that, from the 1930s on, half the King Street staff may have been MI5/Special Branch plants or feeds.Malcolm Redfellowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11907427518823910875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610098701295003985.post-64552291769711294522007-09-25T15:18:00.000-07:002007-09-25T15:18:00.000-07:00Great site, sorry it took me so long to put up a l...Great site, sorry it took me so long to put up a link, im only back to blogging this weekChris Gaskinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05043583501768527707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610098701295003985.post-38064071861530513092007-09-24T01:20:00.000-07:002007-09-24T01:20:00.000-07:00Interesting site Gabriel. As I've said in the comm...Interesting site Gabriel. As I've said in the comments part of my site I don't have communist leanings, but I'll certainly link you to Three Thousand Versts.Owen Polleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00567787385096905811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610098701295003985.post-25687215197726101552007-09-23T18:40:00.000-07:002007-09-23T18:40:00.000-07:00Thanks for being an unrepentant communist. Just ha...Thanks for being an unrepentant communist. Just happened on your site, glad to find it.<BR/><BR/>http://www.currenteventswatch.comone country boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17479572224645221652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610098701295003985.post-19698016274528712152007-09-23T16:11:00.001-07:002007-09-23T16:11:00.001-07:00Am I the only one who is encountering difficulties...Am I the only one who is encountering difficulties putting new links on to this template? Who do I contact at Blogger about this? All advice gratefully received.Gabrielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11842473772696324319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610098701295003985.post-44797211824814123232007-09-23T16:11:00.000-07:002007-09-23T16:11:00.000-07:00Am I the only one who is encountering difficulties...Am I the only one who is encountering difficulties putting new links on to this template? Who do I contact at Blogger about this? All advice gratefully received.Gabrielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11842473772696324319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610098701295003985.post-64872712950607963602007-09-23T13:06:00.000-07:002007-09-23T13:06:00.000-07:00Hi GabrielSorry for not responding - unfortunatly,...Hi Gabriel<BR/><BR/>Sorry for not responding - unfortunatly, Akismet blocked your comments. It sometimes does that. I have sent it to bed with no dinner now so you shouldn't have any problems.<BR/><BR/>Link duly added!<BR/><BR/>In Solidarity<BR/><BR/>KitAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610098701295003985.post-67635896786430226832007-09-23T12:48:00.000-07:002007-09-23T12:48:00.000-07:00Excellent stuff, comrade!Excellent stuff, comrade!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com